4. Two Natures in One Person: Tough Questions

This post answers a series of tough questions about this vital and indispensable doctrine.

Jesus Christ the person has two natures, God and man, divine and human. Two natures united in one person is called the hypostatic union, or one-person union. This definition spawns all sorts of questions.

If you would like to see the following verses in many translations and in their contexts, please go to biblegateway.com.

1.. When Jesus calmed the storm, did his divine nature do that?

Miracles are proper to the divine nature, but a nature in this context is a collection of attributes, and they don’t act or do anything. The person of Jesus performed that miracle.

However, some theologians say that one nature does one thing that the other nature does not. So the miracles were performed by the divine nature, not his human nature.

He was also anointed by the Spirit, and worked miracles through the Spirit. So now we see the Trinity working through Jesus. The Father took the lead. Jesus surrendered and submitted his divine attributes to him, and they were hidden behind his humanity. This idea is expressed in verses like these:

He does only what he sees his Father doing (John 5:19). He lives because of the Father (John 6:57). He stands with the Father (John 8:16). The Father knows him, and he knows the Father who sent him (John 8:16). He speaks only what the Father taught him (John 8:28). The Father knows him, and he knows the Father (John 10:15). The Father loves him because he lays down his life (John 10:17). He and his Father are one. He does what he sees the Father does (John 10:37). “I and my Father are one” (John 10:30). What Jesus says is just what the Father told him to say (John 12:49-50, John 12:57).

Perhaps the most important verse about miracles and surrender: “I have shown you many miracles from the Father” (John 10:32).

Jesus never lost his divine attributes, nor did he set or lay them aside. Rather, he kept them, but surrendered and submitted them to the Father. So the Spirit anointed him to do miracles, but even the Spirit surrendered and obeyed the Father. Jesus surrendered to and obeyed the Father, who hid his Son’s divine attributed behind Jesus’s humanity. So through the Son Jesus, the Triunity worked the miracle.

2.. When Jesus hungered or thirsted, did his human nature do that?

The answer is the same as the previous one. It was the person of Jesus who hungered and thirsted, not his collection of human attributes, also known as his human nature.

However, some theologians say that one nature does one thing that the other does not. So it was not his divine nature that hungered and thirsted, but his human nature did.

3.. Does that mean when he died, only his human nature died, and not his divine nature?

Yes, only his human nature died, but not his divine nature. But it is better to say that it was the person of Christ who experienced death. Nevertheless, by virtue of the union of Christ’s two natures, his divine nature tasted something of death (it’s impossible to say how in detail), but his divine nature did not change or die.

4.. Does this mean that when he said he did not know the time of his return, his human nature did not know, but his divine nature did?

Yes. The two centers of consciousness explain how that can happen. He had limited knowledge and had to learn and grow in knowledge in his human nature, but he also had limitless knowledge in his divine nature.

5.. Does this mean that when Jesus was lying in the cradle, he was still fully divine and was the Creator too?

Yes, and he was fully human. Two natures in one person! Awesome and wonderful!

6.. Did Christ turn on his human nature and divine nature like two light switches?

No, but he lived through the time of humiliation as a man and for our benefit and in obedience to the Father’s will he self-limited, so he can experience what we do, even death. People who saw him mostly saw his human nature and his physical body and missed his full divinity.

His human nature dimmed his divine nature, but only from the limited points of view from the humans who observed him and could not see his divinity, except when he made a mighty display of a miracle.

Once again, if we understand that Jesus surrendered and submitted his divine attributes to the Father, and the Father hid them behind his humanity, until he willed to shine forth a glimpse of Jesus’s divine attributes, as Peter, James and John did on the Mount of Transfiguration (Matt. 17:1-13).

7.. But his divine nature shone through, right?

Right, and this explains why the Apostles and disciples all affirmed his deity throughout their writings, the New Testament. They were also inspired by the Holy Spirit to write what they did.

8.. But don’t two centers of consciousness and will require two persons?

No. Wayne Grudem answers:

At this point someone may object that if we say that Jesus had two centers of consciousness and two wills, that requires that he was two distinct persons, and we have really fallen into the error of “Nestorianism.” But in response, it must simply be affirmed that two wills and two centers of consciousness do not require that Jesus be two distinct persons. It is mere assertion without proof to say that they do. If someone responds that he or she does not understand how Jesus could have two centers of consciousness and still be one person, then that fact may certainly be admitted by all. But failing to understand something does not mean that it is impossible, only that our understanding is limited. The great majority of the church throughout its history has said that Jesus had two wills and centers of consciousness, yet remained one person. Such a formulation is not impossible, merely a mystery that we do not now fully understand. To adopt any other solution would create a far greater problem: it would require that we give up either the full deity or full humanity of Christ, and that we cannot do (p. 561, emphasis original)

However Charles C. Ryrie said he sees two wills, one responding to his divine nature, the other to his human nature (if I understood him correctly).

Now let’s turn to some Scriptural problems.

9.. How does John 20:28 pose any problems?

Thomas sees the risen Christ and cries out, “My Lord and my God!” Some say it is an oath, moderate cussing, when he was caught by surprise, as some people say: My God! Dios mio! O mon Deux! Those words do mean that Thomas acknowledged Christ’s deity.

Reply:

In context, John intends us to see the proper reaction of the witnesses who have seen the resurrection (v. 21). Thomas believes Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God. In the larger Gospel of John the deity is affirmed everywhere, especially in John 1 and the I Am statements (John 8:58, and 6:35; 8:12 [9:5]; 10:7, 9; 10:11, 14; 11:25; 14:6; 15:1, 5). So we should see Thomas’s surprice as of a piece with the flow of John’s Gospel.

10.. How does Col. 1:15 pose any problems?

This verse says that Jesus is the “firstborn over all creation.” What does firstborn mean? Does it mean God created the Son, and then the Son created all the rest? Could it be the Son had a beginning? After all, first must be chronological in birth order.

Reply:

The verse goes on to say along with vv. 16-17 that in him all things were created, so his creator role is affirmed, and already this places him high above any notion that he was a mere prophet or Islamic messiah.

Further, a closer look at the entire Bible reveals that the word firstborn has multiple meanings.

In Old Testament culture, the emphasis was on the firstborn son. He had a double portion of inheritance (Deut. 21:17), privileges over other family members (Gen. 27:1-4, 35-37), preferential treatment (Gen. 43:33), and respect from others (Gen. 37:22) (Moody, p. 209).

Figuratively, moreover, it denotes supremacy (Ex. 4:22; Jer. 31:9).

Therefore, when Christ is said to be the firstborn, he has rights and privileges to be the ruler and authority over all creation. He is the head of the church and preeminent in everything. Nowhere does Col. 1:15 say that Jesus had a beginning, nor does the entire Bible say this.

Moreover, Col. 1:18 says that he is the “firstborn from the dead.” During his earthly ministry he himself raised people from the dead, including Lazarus (Matt. 9:18-19, 23-5; Luke 7:11-15; John 11:1-44), so the term cannot be chronologically first, but preeminently and substantially first. His resurrection is qualitatively different than those other ones. He alone now has the right to rule and triumph over death.

Rom. 8:29 says, “Those whom he foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of the Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brothers and sister.” Here firstborn has nothing to do with birth order or chronology, but preeminence or supremacy or first in leadership.

Thus in Col. 1:15 the NIV translates firstborn right: “firstborn over all creation.”

11.. How does Eph. 1:3 pose any problems?

It says, “Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ” (cf. 2 Cor. 1:3 and 1 Pet. 1:3). It seems that Jesus has a God, so how can he be a full deity on the same plane as the Father?

Reply:

It is vital to understand the persons and the essence in the Trinity and to keep them distinct. Three persons, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, are within the one God in his one essence. The three persons have different roles, and in these roles the Son is subordinate to the Father. Some call this the economical Triunity—how the three persons relate to his creation, redemption and to us in their roles. All three are equal in one essence, but the Son is subordinate to the Father in the Son’s roles. Paul’s verses confirm these distinctions (and so does Peter’s).

Posted by James Malcolm

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1. Two Natures in One Person: Key Terms and Concepts

2. Two Natures in One Person: He Was Human and God (Scriptures in Part 2)

3. Two Natures in One Person: Basic Questions and Answers

4. Two Natures in One Person: Tough Questions

5. Two Natures in One Person: If Jesus Got Hungry, Did God?

6. Two Natures in One Person: Definition or Creed of Chalcedon

7. Two Natures in One Person: Review and Conclusion

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Works Cited at Renewal Theology

 

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